The gun can be somewhat decent DPS wise if you get multishot skills for it, IE more bullets. however the time it takes to fully upgrade it, added onto the fact that until nearly full upgraded, with all 3 shots and some extra damage, its completely useless make it a pointless build earlygame. even lategame its far outclassed by the other benefits dash and tornado offer.

Froggy G's gun is actually the strongest of all the standard guns, when upgraded.

If you go with the damage upgrade, instant firing speed upgrade, and multiple shot upgrade, you get a damage output of 193 * 9 * 3 = 5211 damage per minute, or 86.85 damage per second.

Compare with Lonestar (274 * 13 = 3562 dpm), Clunk (86 * (14 + 36 + 44 + 26) / 4 = 2580 dpm), Voltar (80 * 10 * 4 = 3200 dpm), Leon (214 * 17 * 0.6 + 214 * 35 * 0.4 = 5178.8 dpm) and Yuri (400 * 8 = 3200 dpm).

Hell, I'm pretty sure it's the strongest of all the skills in the game. It's the Magikarp of skills. It's this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGB7eTakT_w

Wow, gonna have to try maxing it out.

I don't have it on hand (at work), but how is it for DP$? My rough sense is that Froggy's gun takes a massive investment before it works well, and that this makes it difficult to go with a gun build because you need to be effective to get money and need a lot of money to make Froggy's gun effective. Whereas Splash gives you a nice curve that works well initially and gives you fair value for each upgrade.

I only have the data for Froggy G and Clunk scribbled down, might add the rest later.

NOTE: I didn't go for absolute max damage, but for great-but-still-somewhat-cost-efficient damage, i.e. the cheap direct upgrades over the more expensive gradual ones, even if the latter added more damage. For example, Froggy G's gradual rate of fire upgrade adds 3 * 20 shots per minute, while the direct one adds 50 shots per minute.

NOTE 2: I just read on the wiki that the attack speed stat on the statistics page does not perfectly correlate with the attacks per minute. The exact formula is this: [attacks per second] = 0.013 * [attack speed] + 0.378 . It's pretty close though, so I'm not going to recalculate.


Froggy G:

Initial damage: 143 * 5 = 715
Upgraded damage 193 * 9# * 3 = 5211
Upgrade cost: 200 * 2 + 270 + 280 * 2 = 1030
Damage increase: +628.811188811 %
Damage increase/solar: 0.61049629982 %/s

# The multiple shot upgrade detracts 1 damage from each shot. That is why the bullets do 9 (5 + 3 + 3 - 1 - 1) damage instead of 11 (5 + 3 + 3).


Clunk:

Initial: 60 * 14 = 840
Upgraded: 86 * (14 + 36 + 44 + 26) / 4 = 2580
Upgrade cost: 130 * 2 + 160 * 2 + 400 = 980
Damage increase: +207.142857143 %
Damage increase/solar: 0.21137026239 %/s


Lonestar:

Initial: 200 * 5 = 1000
Upgraded: 274 * 13 = 3652
Upgrade cost: 200 * 2 + 185 * 2 + 320 = 1090
Damage increase: +265.2 %
Damage increase/solar: 0.15155963303 %/s


Voltar:

Initial: 48 * 5 * 2 = 480
Upgraded: 80 * 10 * 4 = 3200
Upgrade cost: 175 * 2 + 210 * 2 + 315 = 1085
Damage increase: +566.666666667 %
Damage increase/solar: 0.5222734255 %/s


Yuri:

Initial: 240 * 4 = 960
Upgraded: 400 * 8 = 3200
Upgrade cost: 155 * 2 + 210 * 2 + 205 = 935
Damage increase: +233.333333333 %
Damage increase/solar: 0.2495543672 %/s


Leon:
Initial: 150 * 8 = 1200
Upgraded: 214 * 17 * 0.6 + 214 * 35 * 0.4 = 5178.8
Upgrade cost: ?
Damage increase: +331.566666667 %
Damage increase/solar: ? %/s



EDIT: Oh wait, I have the rest too. I'm ill as hell, so I have loads of free time on my hands I don't know what to do with. It'll be up in a second.

EDIT2: Rest coming up soon.

Wow, thanks for calculating this all!
Funny that I never played auto attack builds with lonestar (lowest damage increase/solar), while I did play this way with froggy (highest damage increase/solar)

I wouldn't have a problem with Yuri flying all the way up there, if I could actually see him on my screen, instead of having to go with the map and a little blind luck! ><

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The scaling of Froggy's damage is indeed a bit too steep. We will do some changes on viable gunbuilds for him in patch 1.1.

Have you considered making the thorn fish reduce the damage by 2 instead of 1 ? His DPS would be 193*7*3=4053, which would still be the second best after Leon. Quite enough for a character with two excellent skills.

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His gun damage might scale well, but it's pointless since you can't really hit you're enemy well, in real fight you'll get maybe 1-2 of those to actually hit the target and that's at point blank range (since nobody just sit around and let you shoot them, they jump around and stuff).

His range is so pathetic anyway that you either have to sacrifice his dps to get it to a range where you can actually hit enemy far away (even then it's just 1 bullet).

His gun and all his upgrade are really only there to take out turret/core when you can stay there beyond the tornado duration. Against other nauts you're better off upgrading dash/tornado all the time.