Dat post count.

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Completely unbalanced.

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How do you guys counter a Derpl+Yuri? I've seen this a lot lately in almost every match I join.

I can win against Derpl when he's alone very easily (1vs1). But not when facing these two together.


Help?

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It's a bubble Yuri, right? Whenever there's a good bubble Yuri on the other team, you need to kill him first. It's hard to coordinate in a public game, but that's pretty much your only option. If you fail to kill someone and he heals them up, he's gaining a ton of solar, which means either insane laser or more powerful mines planted in your face. That's sadly enough what usually happens; people keep flinging dynamite from afar etc. feeding him solar ...

How? It is almost impossible because he's with Derpl all the time. If I tried to Tongue snatch him with leon, he'll escape easily using his bubble and go back to Derpl which by this time he has his nuke recharged and ready to blast me into smithereens.

This one time I was using Froggy. I had RBAY and Ice Cubs. I Splash dash Yuri then immediately activate tornado. Derpl activates his nuke, RBAY, Yuri dies.

But this doesn't always work because a good Derpl player can detonate the nuke with a second press before it even hits Froggy.

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Like I said, you need to a coordinated attack with your teammates, which is frustratingly hard to do in a public game.

lots of lonestar hate going on in here for him being OP. Honestly post patch, I think he's probably the most balanced character now alongside Leon and I don't have any real issues with them. On the other hand some characters do need a few changes to balance it out across the board.

Froggy G is probably the best character now due to his thorn fish change, hes the new lonestar piggy boots missile. The way his gun upgrades work with it now is very broken compared to other characters. Correct me if im wrong but it costs 285 for thorn fish, which is +6 damage, that in itself is too cheap compared to the damage you get. Then from then on, its 200 solar for + 6 damage, that is far too cheap.
It costs 225 for +2 damage with leon, 320 for +4 with lonestar yet froggy gets +6 for 200. Something isn't right here. This, combined with stun from splash dash is easy town strategy.

This should be altered so that either thorn fish costs something more along the lines of 400 solar or separate his damage upgrades into 3, still 200 solar. +2 damage each. or just put it back how it was originally.

Voltar is the next character that I think is unbalanced now. He seems redundant now with Yuri's time warp changes, With timewarp he can heal just as good, in a larger radius, slow enemies and make allies fight faster. while all voltar can do is heal and blind enemies. Yuri doesnt even need to upgrade his laser till bubbles maxed out cause flashforward increases its DPS, He's a ridiculously good asset to the team compared to voltar who feels more like a moving target. Id much rather have a bubble Yuri on my team than a Voltar.

To fix this they need to give voltar something else to make him appealing, even just get rid of invert healing wave altogether and just make his heal do damage to enemies as well, no upgrade required, this makes it more appealing to go for straight healing with voltar as you wouldn't be completely defenceless for doing so and could upgrade damage and healing at the same time(Like flashforward, but still not as good). perhaps give healbot an ability that shields teammates within its radius like derpls shield. Just give him something to appear more useful than Yuri!

Coco, I have no issues with apart from her standard attack, the hitbox for it is pathetic, worse than leons. This can easily be fixed by just allowing her to aim freely instead of just left and right. as it is her standard attacks only good for droids and turrets. Other than that she seems solid enough.

Clunks fine as is. Or well, do something about solar bite, it's useless. Make it only 1 upgrade maybe, and make leons magnet piercing give solar too, not just pull it.

Derpl only needs 2 changes, give a radius indicator of nuke and dont allow him to detonate it manually.

Right now the current 'dream team' that never seems to lose for me is Froggy, Yuri, Clunk/Derpl. Pretty much unstoppable.

Anyone disagree?

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Yes, everyone disagrees.

Lonestar might not be the hotness of the minute the same way that Yuri and Sir Derpleton are, but I'm pretty sure a lot of the more experience people here would argue that Lonestar is still the best character in the game, simply for his ability to do pretty much everything at a high level and having no big weaknesses in his game.

And Leon is balanced in the same way that bringing a knife to a nuke fight is balanced.

Most characters can do everything at a high level, I really don't see what the big deal with lonestar is and how his is so much better than say Froggy.

And Leon is fine as he is. He can give derpl a hard time by simply using tongue to pull him towards your turret/out of his to blitz him. Are you saying hes the worst character or something? Because thats what it sounds like your saying.

I don't get why people say Yuri sucks as a pusher either, once youve got bubble maxed and flyswatter, you do more than enough turret damage while also increasing the droids damage to the turret.

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Bubble Yuri is the best character build besides 1.0 misslestar. try fighting a bubble yuri and an SD clunk. it's so hard to do ANYTHING, plus healing the Clunk gets the Yuri easy money and you can't really do much to the yuri without sacrificing a scary amount of health because he's attached to the Clunk's cheeks.

I'm in no way complaining because i love seeing Yuri getting the use he's getting now that his bubble is fixed, it's just pulling me further away from my love affair with Clunk

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