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 Post subject: Re: Lonestar NEEDS a nerf!
 Post Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 4:51 am 
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Then you know what take him out the game. Leave all the other characters and take lonestar out. You might as well if you complaining this much.

If he's spamming dynamite clunk can Hoover over them tap x a few times blam your over them. If he throws the bull at you jump over it. I don't even care if lonestar gets nerfed because even after he gets nerfed your still going to die and complain about something else the Dev's should and shouldn't have done to him.

You guys act like he's undefeatable he can be beat. Maybe you guys just suck that bad. That any lonestar entering the game just kills you constantly.
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1. And if he has a somewhat decent team that has his back while you on the other hand are getting DTed by lonestar and another naut? (quite survivalable if you get lucky). Plus unless your using a mic theirs not much you can do to get your team to triple/double team him.

2. If he's spamming dynamite clunk and derpl can get around it, but what about all the other 6 characters? (with the exception of voltars hovering and yuri's flying

3. The hitbox of the bull in narrow lanes are extremely hard to dodge unless you kill it quickly which would probably require using a skill. Then your 1 well needed skill less that you could be using to kill lonestar.

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 Post subject: Re: Lonestar NEEDS a nerf!
 Post Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 4:56 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Lonestar NEEDS a nerf!
 Post Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:34 pm 
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Jayteea wrote:
1. And if he has a somewhat decent team that has his back while you on the other hand are getting DTed by lonestar and another naut? (quite survivalable if you get lucky). Plus unless your using a mic theirs not much you can do to get your team to triple/double team him.

2. If he's spamming dynamite clunk and derpl can get around it, but what about all the other 6 characters? (with the exception of voltars hovering and yuri's flying

3. The hitbox of the bull in narrow lanes are extremely hard to dodge unless you kill it quickly which would probably require using a skill. Then your 1 well needed skill less that you could be using to kill lonestar.


Now i dont claim to be the best at this game, but there are ways around the scenarios you describe, you just have to know the situation you are in and which tools to use to get around them.

1. the issue you describe has less to do with lonestar and more to do with how this game works in general. if one player has a decent team and you do not, then youre most likely not going to win. doesnt matter if they pick lonestar or not. make some friends, play with them regularly, and teach people how to play better if need be, then this wont be so much of an issue.

2. so as it has already been stated, derpl and clunk can get around the dynamite mines by staggering their jumps to stay in the air. voltar can hover and yuri can fly to avoid them. lonestar can use bull or double/tri-jump across, froggy can splash across. for leon, its a bit tougher, but he can use moving clones to help clear the field. not real sure what cocos answer for it is though. now of course you have to pay attention to where youre walking in the heat of battle and it may not be super easy, but everyone has a way to make lonstar's mines not as effective as you may think except coco. although, if everyone had a way to make an ability not that good, then there would be no use in putting it in your load out.

3. so yes, in narrow lanes, the bull can be hard to avoid. like you said, though, you can use an ability to get through it quickly. so you have that option if you so choose. lonestar had to use an ability to fire the bull out, so it only makes sense that you would have to use one of yours to get rid of it because if everyone had a way to get rid/around it without using an ability, then, again, the bull would be useless. personally, what i do when i see lonestar fire a bull out is retreat. reason one is that its gonna be pushing me back anyway so im just gonna get out of range just in case he has the exploding bull. reason two is that if i keep holding forward, it will keep bouncing me and make me an easier target for lonestar to shoot/throw dynamite at. try that and see if that helps you out.

TLDR: im not saying lonestars abilities arent good. they are, and i would welcome a slight damage nerf to trinamite and hes the second character i play the most behind only froggy. however, there are ways and abilities you can use to lessen the amount of effectiveness that they have, you just have to be resourceful and aware of the situation.


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 Post subject: Re: Lonestar NEEDS a nerf!
 Post Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:19 pm 
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dynamite is too easy, and if you disagree, you're in denial.

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 Post subject: Re: Lonestar NEEDS a nerf!
 Post Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 2:19 am 
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This thread is Omg lonestar, clunk and voltar are the easiest nauts to kill. Wtf is this thread. Jroc definitly is right.


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 Post subject: Re: Lonestar NEEDS a nerf!
 Post Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 1:04 pm 
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I am very good at dodging tri-namyte with clunk but its still extremely easy to hit him with it in the hands of a halfway decent player. Honestly I find the best thing to do when lonestar throws dynamite is jump straight up but that still doesen't stop him from just tossing it right in your face and honestly I don't even care so much about getting facerolled with dynamite I just hate how its cooldown is so short and with contact he can flood lanes with it and use it like yuri mines from hell, are there ways around this tactic? sure. But its still way to easy to use and almost totally stop lane progression from just one fairly inexpensive build


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 Post subject: Re: Lonestar NEEDS a nerf!
 Post Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 2:34 am 
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frankie3 wrote:
This thread is Omg lonestar, clunk and voltar are the easiest nauts to kill. Wtf is this thread. Jroc definitly is right.



Thanks , some of these guys just die alot. Play with someone or add someone and play with them. So you WON'T DIE SO MUCH 

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I'm starting to think players that die a lot have much more nerf request. Adjust your tactics before you start yelling NERF to the Dev's


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 Post subject: Re: Lonestar NEEDS a nerf!
 Post Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 8:16 am 
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Why would you necro this thread?

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 Post subject: Re: Lonestar NEEDS a nerf!
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Baconbits wrote:
Why would you necro this thread?


Because Lonestar NEEDS to be nerfed, obviously.

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 Post subject: Re: Lonestar NEEDS a nerf!
 Post Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 7:13 am 
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Baconbits wrote:
Why would you necro this thread?


Because Lonestar NEEDS to be nerfed, obviously.

He got nerfed, join us on the PC version. ;)

Anyhow, it wasn't raised from the dead for that reason. It was raised because Jroc was replying that someone agreed with him about playing using team tactics against someone who is powerful against you, or something like that.

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