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 Post subject: Re: Can we and should we have spear lady or the owls?
 Post Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:23 pm 
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Isn't valentina just jimmy though. Seems too similar for me to really be excited about her, just give jimmy an rbay shield item and there you go.

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 Post subject: Re: Can we and should we have spear lady or the owls?
 Post Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 3:17 pm 
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Personally I'd prefer just moving forward from that incident altogether and see what designs Ronimo come up with for characters in the future. There's a chance other entries will be referenced in those future characters as well, and it's not required to allow the other entries or not. Like it or not they made their choice.

I'm unsure if they'll host another one in the future. Assumably they'll have learned from their mistakes with setting up the voting process and prevent the incident from happening again for a more honorable outcome.

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 Post subject: Re: Can we and should we have spear lady or the owls?
 Post Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 5:32 pm 
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Sam! wrote:
Isn't valentina just jimmy though.

it's posts like this that make me wonder if anyone actually read my thread


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 Post subject: Re: Can we and should we have spear lady or the owls?
 Post Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 5:43 pm 
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Sam! wrote:
Isn't valentina just jimmy though.

it's posts like this that make me wonder if anyone actually read my thread


We don't need an entire reading of your topic to realise that your concept of nauts' kit is as bonker as ronimo's one lol. (aka overloading to the extreme)
Would've honestly been better if neither valentina or Ix won.

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 Post subject: Re: Can we and should we have spear lady or the owls?
 Post Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 6:05 pm 
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We don't need an entire reading of your topic to realise that your concept of nauts' kit is as bonker as ronimo's one lol. (aka overloading to the extreme)
Would've honestly been better if neither valentina or Ix won.

As the person that went through and read every single fan-'Naut ever posted to the forums to catalogue them, I would say Valentina one of the less mechanically overencumbered I have seen.

None of her "bits" feel tacked on simply to say "look at this feature", and while there is a lot to her design (compared to some of the older 'Nauts), it still feels coherent. Some of the parts—like the passive damage reduction—could be combined with her abilities if they were a problem, I suppose.

The Owl Twins, however, would be a mechanical nightmare to get working properly if you want both to be independently controllable. I saw the original design, and it felt to me like it would be a gimmick instead of a feature.

Now, we could have a 'Naut that is controlled by all three players on a team: one for movement, one for the autoattack, and one for the abilities—like Cho'gall, but actually good.

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 Post subject: Re: Can we and should we have spear lady or the owls?
 Post Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 6:14 pm 
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your 2nd paragraph doesn't literally invalid my point but ok.

Btw Idc about lore, we gave clunk more movespeed so stop with that excuse ty.

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 Post subject: Re: Can we and should we have spear lady or the owls?
 Post Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 7:50 pm 
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I like Ix.
I'm glad we got Ix.
I have fun playing as Ix and I actually don't have problems facing him.

Unlike the actual anti-fun concept that Valentina sounds like.
Unlike the uninteresting character that the Owls sound like.
And no one remembers the other two so go figure.

It's been 2 * years. Let go. I hope we dont get another Make a Naut event ever again.

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 Post subject: Re: Can we and should we have spear lady or the owls?
 Post Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 1:57 am 
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"Isn't Valentina just Jimmy though"

Did any of you even read the thread? Seriously, a 30-second skim of the post and you can see she's nothing like Jimmy. That's like saying Chucho is like Jimmy because they both have an ability that makes them go fast and an ability that throws something explosive.

I don't think the deflect on her shield is comparable to RBAY, either. With its short, near-instant duration, you need to time it well in order to be most effective with it, rather than just charging in with RBAY and then having to jump away the instant RBAY is over. Plus it's a deflect, not a reflect.

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I like Ix.
I'm glad we got Ix.
I have fun playing as Ix and I actually don't have problems facing him.

Unlike the actual anti-fun concept that Valentina sounds like.
Unlike the uninteresting character that the Owls sound like.
And no one remembers the other two so go figure.

It's been 2 * years. Let go. I hope we dont get another Make a Naut event ever again.

Valentina might be irritating to fight against if she got in, but she'd be a massive improvement over the sheer amount of "* you" Ix can throw at you. I would vastly prefer a split-second deflect over the "lol i get to take no dmg cus i said so" middle finger that is Refract.

I seriously don't get how Valentina is "anti fun" yet Ix is perfectly fine.

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