I believe the unbalanced matchmaking is PARTLY due to the bad players who want to preserve their score. Now that they are being matched with people who are supposed to be at the same level because of having similar scores they are getting owned. They Get what they deserve and hopefully the games ranking will balance out better if they accept their losses.


Also leavers should lose 50-100 points in their ranking score.

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We're will punish leavers harder in 1.6. We didn't have enough time to add it in 1.5 unfortunately.

Hell yeah! We see to much of this now when the matchmaking is tougher. Most of the ppl who are afraid to lose their precious rating quit right before the end. So maybe a harder punish the longer they play, and a option to reconnect if steam's a *.

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What about the legit disconnects. Can't you guys not tell about who dc's and who leaves so the ones that got dced are getting punished even more?

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PSN : Jay-Teea

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It should be the same punishment. Or else people will just disconnect routers or modems in extreme cases. Whether it was your intention or not when you disconnect you still inconvenience your team with a bot against live players and if you have frequent disconnects that means you're frequently sabotaging teams you're on.

I honestly must say that I disagree with genuine disconnections being punished, considering how many times I am still logged out of my Steam account in 1.5, as well as other forms of disconnections still happening now and again. It's better than it was in 1.4, don't get me wrong, but it's still happening sadly.

Being punished "hard" like that for something which is out of our hands is as far from intentional sabotage as you can get, and will definitely get a huge amount of flak from those that try to climb up the leader boards legitimately. I certainly hope that isn't in the devs' plans.

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Saviour of The Solar Tree's bottom lane, mi'lord of the bunkers, at your service.

Surely we'd be all quite happy to have stable connections now in 1.5 enough to warrant the ability to punish quitters on all circumstances. I've had well over 500 games and of them won over half and left plenty of games due to dropped connections whilst in the process of winning. I can estimate the figure is anywhere between 20-35 disconnects in total and only 1 or 2 were ever ones which saved me from losses. Let's not forget it's just as bad to be dropped into a losing game with no chance to redeem it and these occur far more than dropping into winning games.

Fact is those who feel this is unfair have a bias to unfair play whether you openly deny it or dodge around the addressed situation. How can you tell? Well the simplest answer would be to have the logs ready if you so care though it's not worth complaining over every loss you had. This isn't about punishing losers: it's about rewarding winners. How many people here have had their hard-earned victories hollowed out by players who quit before it validates the score? It'd be a lot more appropriate for players to have their contributions to matches locked so even if they leave prior to a loss it still counts against them and same for LEGIT people who leave prior to a win as it counts too.

If this game really wants to maintain a fun environment it shouldn't have self-entitled sabotaged minorities running around controlling the top spots.

I agree with this wholeheartedly. You save all contributions to the game, then at the end you multiply their portion of time contribution by how many points they're gonna win or lose on the leaderboards. If you drop out before you win or lose, then you gain or lose a fair amount of ranking. The great thing about this is that if you join a game merely minutes before your drill gets destroyed, you're punished much less. To punish leavers a little more with this system, you can add a couple minutes to their time contribution if their team ends up losing.

Then you just have to figure out the case where the same person joins the same game twice but on different teams. The best solution to this might just be to not allow it.

What else is in store for 1.6? A new stage? Please?

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I must say, that would be nice.

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Saviour of The Solar Tree's bottom lane, mi'lord of the bunkers, at your service.