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 Post subject: Re: RankCheck - Automatic leaderboard lookup tool [v1.3]
 Post Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 8:18 pm 
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As of Awesomenauts patch 4.2, RankCheck no longer works.

The removal of SteamIDs from the game's network logs (until the game is exited) does indeed prevent old versions of the tool from being used for counterpicking during character selection, but it also prevents its legitimate use for displaying player information during a match (particularly as a stream overlay).

Unless a log entry containing the resolved SteamID and team of each player in the match is added to the network log, there does not appear to be a way to make RankCheck work for 4.2, at least not during matches. I can try to add support for viewing player info from replays instead, however.

Sorry for the inconvenience.


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 Post subject: Re: RankCheck - Automatic leaderboard lookup tool [v1.3]
 Post Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 8:28 pm 
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What the * they just told you to make that so your tool dosen't allow you to see enemies on selection screen and allowed it to be launched and then 2 weeks later they make it useless.

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 Post subject: Re: RankCheck - Automatic leaderboard lookup tool [v1.3]
 Post Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:26 pm 
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rybakowsky wrote:
What the * they just told you to make that so your tool dosen't allow you to see enemies on selection screen and allowed it to be launched and then 2 weeks later they make it useless.

That seems like a pretty thoughtless way of handling things indeed. Is it not simply possible to have the output of the SteamIDs to the ApplicationNetwork1.log file delayed until the game starts? It's quite disheartening to think that Maru's efforts in developing this tool would end up being for naught.


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 Post subject: Re: RankCheck - Automatic leaderboard lookup tool [v1.3]
 Post Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:51 pm 
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I don't know at these things but wouldn't it be possible for rankcheck to check player steam name and then search it in nautsrankings?

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 Post subject: Re: RankCheck - Automatic leaderboard lookup tool [v1.3]
 Post Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 10:07 am 
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... crickets from Ronimo.


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 Post subject: Re: RankCheck - Automatic leaderboard lookup tool [v1.3]
 Post Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:24 pm 
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ty ronimo for banning the software that literally only one person complained about (also because that one person was * that he couldn't create a software that complex), and then making the sofware unable to use, because ronimo are so * dumb they can't figure out if one update is gonna cause problems for other things.
Sorry Marukyu you spent so much time creating a software for a game that the devs couldn't even bother spending 10 minutes to check if the updates were gonna break it or not.

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 Post subject: Re: RankCheck - Automatic leaderboard lookup tool [v1.3]
 Post Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:23 pm 
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I think Maru owes more than just an apology from Ronimo. He spend a lot of time creating the tool, then took the time to adjust the tool to meet Ronimos requirements only to find out a week later his work was in vain. Removing the required inputdata altogether was the most convenient option eventhough rankcheck needed it at the start of a match

At the very least there should be a inside discussion at ronimo at how things can work out. Joost was eager to follow Rankchecks development and gave tips, but now a small effort has to be made on their end and.... Marukyu is left with no compromise. Simply rude and not how you treat your active community members in my opinion.


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 Post subject: Re: RankCheck - Automatic leaderboard lookup tool [v1.3]
 Post Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:01 pm 
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I can't believe there is no plan to bring this back. Rankcheck was so helpful at alleviating some frustration and confusion, like when you get stomped one match and get 20 kills the next. Oh its cuz look, I was fighting against rank 50 when I'm around 7,000 that makes sense. Shame on you Ronimo. Fix it.

Or just add a persons ranking or league next to their name. Literally ANYTHING.


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 Post subject: Re: RankCheck - Automatic leaderboard lookup tool [v1.3]
 Post Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:32 pm 
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i was one of the first people to raise concerns about rank check....in character select.

i didn't really expect ronimo to completely eliminate its functionality though. nautsrankings.com seems to be having trouble lately as well. coincidence?

i gotta be honest here - looking people up before/during a game really just produces salt more than anything positive. it tends to give people anecdotal evidence they use to * on matchmaking, complain in forums, write off games as a loss before they've started, or help competent players pin point & exploit weak links in a team. if someone can describe some positive benefits for the game & the community that tools like this provide, i'd really like to know. just stating that this information is available elsewhere is not actually a positive benefit that the tool creates.


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 Post subject: Re: RankCheck - Automatic leaderboard lookup tool [v1.3]
 Post Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:13 am 
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If any dev at Ronimo is reading this:

Please add a network log entry containing SteamID and team of each player when the match starts. Using this information, I'll be able to make RankCheck work again. I'd greatly appreciate it, as considerable development efforts have gone into both the server and client powering RankCheck.


robochase6000 wrote:
if someone can describe some positive benefits for the game & the community that tools like this provide, i'd really like to know.


Many users of RankCheck appreciated being able to easily see the extra information it provides, whether it's for reducing frustration during games by finding comfort in the fact that an ongoing loss may simply be the result of an unfortunate matchup (potentially raising motivation during the game, even allowing for comebacks), or just for satisfying their own curiosity about the players in the match.

It was featured as an overlay on several streams (Japiepatatzakie's and Adlands' streams, for instance), giving viewers an idea of how difficult the matchup might be from the streamer's perspective.

Not everyone who sees the leaderboard statistics of their teammates and enemies goes on to leave the match and/or complain. As for those who do: the idea is that players who know they'll regret seeing this information would refrain from using this tool, just as they'd refrain from looking up players on Nautsrankings.

RankCheck intended to bring back the long gone feature of league numbers on the scoreboard. Unlike said league numbers, however, it is an entirely optional feature: each player decides for themselves if they want to download and use RankCheck.


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