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 Post subject: Re: My "tier list"
 Post Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 10:15 am 
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 Post subject: Re: My "tier list"
 Post Posted: Thu May 10, 2018 10:39 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: My "tier list"
 Post Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 8:55 pm 
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I'll illustrate to you why I think some of these picks are wrong.

Jimmy isn't that good. he can get away with a lot of the stuff he does but its one of the characters that struggles the most with strong cc's, long ranges and general stunlock, essentially canceling everything he does, including his aa rotation.

Penny is an undisputed S tier but I wouldn't consider her the best character in the game, not even an overpowered one, she still has a very variable cooldown and auto self silence mechanic that could potentially last forever. definitely has her weaknessses including not a whole lot of sustain sources and strange duration based projectile game (still really good ranged tools regardless)

*Ix outside of S tier.
*froggy at bottom A tier.
*2018 swiggins higher than froggo in A tier.
*ayla highest of B tier.
*skree/rocco/smiles around high B tier.
*lonestar higher in the tier list than skoll yuri and rocket.
*skoll at bottom tier.
*deadlift and leon in wrong low tiers.


Other stuff like max, dizzy, chucho derpl and gnaw I find weirdly placed.

Don't think I give this tier list a pass but you got some of the top tiers right to an extent.

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 Post subject: Re: My "tier list"
 Post Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 10:09 pm 
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Actually I'll give it my own shot, here goes.
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Really rough, tried to make the edit as quick as possible. Personally i'd rather use a different tier list structure. I would like to separate melee nauts from ranged aa nauts. I think they are completely different beasts on their own and also that comparing them is unfair because they both have their own pros and cons. Just a thought.

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 Post subject: Re: My "tier list"
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Is there a website for this or are people just editing the image manually?

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 Post subject: Re: My "tier list"
 Post Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 11:38 am 
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Actually I'll give it my own shot, here goes.

Uhm... Did you miss someone?

Also, Gnaw is not that bad actually.

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 Post subject: Re: My "tier list"
 Post Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 12:05 pm 
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_olaffff wrote:
Actually I'll give it my own shot, here goes.

Uhm... Did you miss someone?

Also, Gnaw is not that bad actually.

thanks for reminding me. I had to pentacheck because of how tired I was when i made the edit that i had already uploaded a version of the tier list to imgur without qi'tara on it, hence the crappy content aware scale artwork rip .-.

also no. gnaw isn't bad, in fact I think every tier list other than the exclusive yoolip tier is fine. its just that gnaw will always have those 2 problems with surviving throughout the game and not being able to dot kill anyone with a reliable enough source of sustain like 2 stage regen, two extremely exclusive weaknesses to the character, in a game that has characters with not particular flaws in most situations. take these 3 picks as precursors to C tier which I feel is the most general,
"honest good" tier, also one of the harder to make picks for. (yes, rocket and derpl 4.6 are in this tier according to me)

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 Post subject: Re: My "tier list"
 Post Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 3:01 pm 
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Rocco definitely isn't second worst.

Great aa damage, decent health and tons of survivability and poke when upgraded. It's very possible to carry with him and the slow is just a bit of extra ontop. I'd put him low-mid but definitely not second to last. His push isn't bad either.

Gnaw also pubstomps, which doesn't justify him being second worst. He is kinda useless against grouped enemies and can't kill any of them quick enough to be useful.

Maybe I should write out what nauts I think are strong and weak atm.

The two tier lists is interesting, I'd like to see that.

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 Post subject: Re: My "tier list"
 Post Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 3:37 pm 
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Rocco definitely isn't second worst.

Great aa damage, decent health and tons of survivability and poke when upgraded. It's very possible to carry with him and the slow is just a bit of extra ontop. I'd put him low-mid but definitely not second to last. His push isn't bad either.

Gnaw also pubstomps, which doesn't justify him being second worst. He is kinda useless against grouped enemies and can't kill any of them quick enough to be useful.

Maybe I should write out what nauts I think are strong and weak atm.

The two tier lists is interesting, I'd like to see that.


exactly, its just that D tier is such a generally weird tier with odd designs and strange tools. that I couldn't exactly find a possition for these 3 picks because I just couldn't find them a place for C tier, I think the tier is perfectly usable but these current forms they have are so strange. Leon I feel is the hardest to justify for being so low in the tier list, he has such insane potential and strong lategame but at the same time I think other characters are sooo much better than him, besides the fact they can also shut him down with relative ease. I don't think these need buffs because they are good, but the general designs need to be looked at.

I'd argue Leon is closer to C tier but again, he has his easy to shutdown weaknesses that are becoming more common such as invis detect, knockback cancel, wool shawl levels of bs range etc.

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 Post subject: Re: My "tier list"
 Post Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 4:36 pm 
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In that case I feel like D could be removed, some in C could be moved to B and we're done with it.

I started making my own but it crashed, and I didn't save. I wasn't too happy with it but eh.
Smiles being low is also jarring since he's very strong on aig and ribbit. He can 1v1 most nauts in close quarters due to inscribed lighter being *. Even if he's probably worse than yoolip on AI station.

I still think we should do a poll. I like polls.

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